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matcho mick
Advanced Member
New South Wales
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 Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 9:22:50 PM
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G'day gang,good bit of racing today eh!,poor old sete looked down,was a close race for sure,he tried everything to stay in front,good to see caparossi/ducati up there too,guess troy will have better luck elsewhere next year?i missed the other two trying to dial the arial in?,duh!!,didn't realise was on wrong channel (for my area),justa bit snowy?,saw last laps of 125's/250's,look like a good crowd too,over 40,000 today,roll on next year,
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popeye
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
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Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 10:41:39 PM
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worst part for me is watching the tape and picking out the mates in the crowd...
the racing was super in the MotoGP, missed the 125's because the sun was out and we went riding and forgot to start tape, the 250's was interesting in midfield though. |
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Posted - 19 Oct 2004 : 02:11:21 AM
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The GP was a ripsnorta,Pity about Westy though.
Lil Casey the Wonderboy is making great progress in his career and his hop up to the 250's should be a interesting venture.
Did anyone see the post race interview with Casey, wasnt a happy chappy with P.I's so called "Improved" run-off traps.
Blind Freddy could have told you that big "rocks" that were used are totally useless and tend to do more bad than good but what do we as "racers" know!!!
Unfortunatley due to circumstances beyond my control I was left sitting on the loungeroom floor,newspaper everywhere(Im trained now) and a 125 motor needing some TLC and a piston kit,so after the complete rebuild I finished it 4 laps into the 250's and was looking for something else to play around with.
Come inside Mr Sidecar Motor the GP is on..............
Thank god the other half was down the Island waving flags at Rossi and Co as she would have jammed a conrod in my bottom end if she saw her loungeroom the way it was.
Im still missing a socket though!!!
The crowd size was impressive,good weather and close fast racing,Great track pity it got hijacked by the car driving dipsticks long ago. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 19 Oct 2004 : 09:56:49 AM
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Neill I have been checking some the facts about Phillip Island.
The gravel traps were installed at the instigation of the FIM. Every step of the way was monitored by FIM. Approximately 10,000 cubic meters of gravel was delivered and it is posible that not all of it was up to scratch but overall the experts believe the new traps are better than nothing.
From what I hear it may well be that changes to gravel size in places still need to happen but I guess Stoner coming out the way he did may not help the cause.
Nobody likes to be publicly ridiculed.
From my information from high levels, the cars had no input over the design of the gravel traps other than ok'ing them for the cars as well.
Phillip Island has primarily been continuously designed for motorcycle racing. Remember the carries [ Dick Johnson] complained about the tyre walls last year when the V8's walked away, well they are still there and the V8's are going back.
Call me for a chat if you like, Neill. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
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Posted - 19 Oct 2004 : 7:58:00 PM
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Safety at Phillip Island has been discussed at length by many people. The tyre walls have long been an issue since Greg Hansford was killed after his car bounced of them into the path of another. A while back a car bounced into the empty spectator area at a club day after mounting the tyre walls.
I wonder who the 'experts' were that did the risk assessment for the FIM?
As the speeds get higher there will be problems at every circuit. The answer is to either take measures such as installing chicanes (as at Bathurst), or limiting speed in some way (reduce power). Turn 1 at Phillip Island will always be a problem in future for GP and Superbikes.
There is a strong argument for keeping capacities of historic machines limited, it could make the difference between keeping on racing or not. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2004 : 09:33:44 AM
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| Al, the topic is the 2004 GP |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Former Member
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174 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2004 : 09:52:03 AM
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A big get well soon should go out to Candice Scott,#54 Aussie GP's,she was apparently taken out by another competitor on the start line.She has sustained a broken leg,and a knackered bike.
Lets hope she makes a speedy recovery and gets back on track real soon.....Go Candy!!! |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2004 : 8:28:36 PM
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| John, this forum is about historic racing. |
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Former Member
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174 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 01:36:38 AM
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Al,
this particular forum is about the GP not historic racing.If David and Allan did not like it, it would be down in an instant.
If you do not like it please ask David and Allan to remove it,considering certain people are behaving like kids elsewhere in other forums,people like me ,popeye and others are sick of the childish behaviour maybe an unrelated topic might help get people speaking on "NORMAL" terms again.
I dont want it removed as it provides us with another topic of talk and Id like to personally thank the web masters for allowing it as it was providing some light reading in a forums area that has been,well not very nice reading of late to say the least.
Sorry to offend you if some of us dont want to argue with each other and have cival conversations aswell.
As for the Gp did you watch it,if so what did you think? |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 05:31:08 AM
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But Al, where the comments are made is in the General Comments:quote:
Information about area
Post all your general comments to this forum. This can be complements or anything else you want.
So the topic is valid. And as Neil said, if I did not like it, it would be down in an instant.quote:
Originally posted by acotrel
John, this forum is about historic racing.
As I asked yesterday Alan, if you have an issue with a topic, please send me a private message and list what it is you have an issue with. Once you do that, then if I find it to be valid I will remove it.
Now the topic: I watched a little bit of the GP, but we had go out. Good to see young Aussie bloke Casey Stoner come in third in the 125cc, even though there was a dead heat between 2nd and him.
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David
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Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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popeye
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
187 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 07:10:04 AM
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| It has been nice to read a thread with a little calmness to it, wiping the vitriol off the screen after reading some of the others gets a bit tiresome. The MotoGP was an outstanding display of racing and one tape I will have to keep me amused during the long break between seasons. The best bit is that all our customers and friends who went had a great time and returned in one piece. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 09:31:12 AM
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| Unfortunately, I was swimming on the Great Barrier Reef, while the GP was on. I'm just jealous I didn't get to watch it live. I saw a bit of it in the evening when I got back to the B&B. One comment made to me , was that it was not a vey exciting race this year, but the comment was made by a carrie, and if you don't ride yourself, MotoGP looks a little bit different. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 09:33:47 AM
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| Some of you might be interested in a DVD which is available at Big W. It is put out by Duke, and outlines the career of Valentino Rossi. Costs about $15. It's worth having. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 09:36:48 AM
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| DVD title is Valentino Rossi's MotoGP Trail of Glory. |
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popeye
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
187 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 6:21:20 PM
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| Thanks Al, will now have to find a Big W and get one to add to the collection, are there any covering the Sheene/Roberts years in general. |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2004 : 11:22:34 AM
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| On Any Sunday Part 2 is a big yank promotion of how good KR was. I've got a copy, send me an email if you want it. I've also got the Barry Sheene video, however it's available from Duke in the UK ( see the back of Classic Racer), and I've seen the DVD in Big W. I've also got a composite video of racing over the years which has got some good stuff in it, if you want it. |
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Former Member
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Posted - 22 Oct 2004 : 1:37:00 PM
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Has anyone read the latest AMCN?Page 118 to be precise.
How a look at what size rock is used and then maybe the criticism is justified.
Just to clarify who got the changes thru it was Rossi,Nobby Aoki,Sete,and K Roberts Jnr.They form the 4 man riders safety group and Sete has "acknowledged privately" that "we may have screwed up,and what looks good on paper may not work so well in practice." Whooops there fella!!! |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2004 : 08:21:19 AM
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| I suggest the problem of the size of the rocks in the speed traps, is an engineering one. I wonder what qualifications or competencies the person/group had who made the decisions about them? |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2004 : 08:29:19 AM
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I am confident PI operations will tell you if you ask. What good is it being an arm chair critic when the people who did the work are a phone call away. Surely it would be better to call them with our advise rather than bag them on a site they probally do not know exists.
The latest Supp regs for the Island Classic have the phone numbers. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2004 : 4:18:08 PM
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| John, the matter of a standardised approach to risk management at circuits is presently under scrutiny. I wasn't bagging PI. If I was, I'd have a lot more to say than simply questioning who decides what to use in sand traps. And as for ringing PI and asking a question, as you suggested, there is currently cooperation between the circuits. Incidents which occur at various race circuits around Australia are the subject of interest to other circuit owners. I will however tactfully ask the question at a meeting in Brisbane on the 3rd November, when PI staff will be present. |
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Former Member
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Posted - 23 Oct 2004 : 7:26:11 PM
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With a full page spread in AMCN about it I dont think a phonecall is needed.If P.I dont get the message from that then they never will.
P.I Op are not to blamed they where following recondmedations from the F.I.M who in turn where told to fix it by the Riders Safety Commision formed last year by Rossi,Sete,Nobby,Roberts Jr being the core group.
The size of the traps are brilliant,Its just the material and/or size used thats a major prob.
Even Mick Doohan on Channel 10 during the Stoner interview said that they have a big problem on their hands.
So if the heads at the F.I.M,P.I, and any other Governing bodies dont list to Doohan,Stoner,Westy and crew why should I think that they will listen to me.
Has anyone seen the Westy crash,and Stoners Sunday morning tumble? Ouch!!!
Oh and check out page 94.Tasty!!!
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Former Member
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Posted - 23 Oct 2004 : 7:31:19 PM
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| Plus my outfit needs that 40 cents spent on it!!Not Telstra. |
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Former Member
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Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 10:36:14 AM
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Originally posted by popeye
Thanks Al, will now have to find a Big W and get one to add to the collection, are there any covering the Sheene/Roberts years in general.
Want some suggestions on how best to sell a helmet of Barry Sheene's. It was the last one he wore in a race and he gave it to his friend Brad Bennett who also had cancer at the time. Saying, "This may help you out one day." That time is now as he desperately needs it. Any ideas. Mia
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Former Member
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Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 10:37:56 AM
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Originally posted by popeye
Thanks Al, will now have to find a Big W and get one to add to the collection, are there any covering the Sheene/Roberts years in general.
Want some suggestions on how best to sell a helmet of Barry Sheene's. It was the last one he wore in a race and he gave it to his friend Brad Bennett who also had cancer at the time. Saying, "This may help you out one day." That time is now as he desperately needs it. Any ideas. Mia
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Allan
Site Moderator
National
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popeye
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
187 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 6:18:53 PM
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| Auction at the start of the Sheene Memorial run to the Island prior to the GP. I think the organisers would go along with the idea. Need to get hold of them pronto. |
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