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acotrel
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Victoria


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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 :  2:25:03 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
I notice this forum is strangely quiet. What's happened, is Jayne busy preparing her husband's outfit for the Championships in Tassie?
 

 
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David
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Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 19 Nov 2005 :  2:47:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
It has been quite with posts, but not readers.
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Originally posted by acotrel

I notice this forum is strangely quiet. What's happened, is Jayne busy preparing her husband's outfit for the Championships in Tassie?
so it is far from being dead.. The other forums around to do with Historic, Classic and Post Classic racing in Australa are even slower than this site.

I was asked by Brian Payne (General Manager of Motorcycling Australia) to have a meeting with David White (CEO of Motorcycling Australia) about this site, but obviously this has now been postponed or they just don't care about Historic, Classic and Post Classic racing in Australa at all.

As for Snoozer, she no longer seems to be on the internet. So looks like just a couple of users need to be removed. Users would be working hard to make tassie a success. Good luck to them next week...
 

 
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David
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Alan
Forum Moderator

Western Australia


353 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2005 :  01:06:00 AM  Show Profile Send Alan a Private Message  

 
I dont think the site is dead but it is going through a phase of rebuilding peoples confidence in it.
It will take a long time as the damage done during the Winton debacle and the ramblings of snoozer and one or two others will stay in peoples memories for quite some time.
Hopefully Symmons Plains will turn out ok and liven peoples comments up a bit. I just hope its all positive and not too many negative comments, there will be a bit of a fuss over fuel as avgas is apparently not available over there. Pity that the Commission I was on wasnt listened to in that regard as that was one of our first questions.
I would have thought that the Southern Classic would have had a good review on here as it was by all accounts a very good meeting, must be a Victorian thing.

Alan Sidecar 21 WA
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72 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2005 :  7:04:28 PM  

 
why do you have to remove a couple of users? looks like only a couple have been posting anything...
i haven't been posting here because i'm not sure of which direction this forum is going now days.
David been talking about someone buying the whole site, i would like to know when thats going to happen or who the new owner is before i continue posting here regularly.
thats so i can make up my own mind on whether i want to continue to be involved with it.
 

 
There are those who do, those who used to do and those who never did..
why is this 3rd group always trying to convince everyone they know best?
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David
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Australia


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Posted - 20 Nov 2005 :  7:47:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
That is a good reply from someone who is to scared to supply their name to the rest of the people with crap comments like that from you HHH.

That is why there is an issue with others not knowing what is going on in the sport cause people try and hide, and do not make comments.

Basically if the site don't sell in the specified time I stated a while ago, then this is going to be the biggest anti Historic, Classic and Post Classic Australian motorcycle site there is.

I have been trying to keep the sport going by giving people like you the opportunity to have your say out in public for years now, and you go and hide like a little girl and try to make smart arse comments that do you or the sport no good.

I suppose that you are one of those PCRA of NSW hero's that tried to screw me over. You do not know the full story and they will not tell you the exact facts cause they stuffed up.

I do not need users like you, making comments like you have on this site, so if you don't know which way to go, I will steer you in the right direction. Don't bother posting as you have only done the sport harm. No wonder the fields are declining.

Simple and to the point.
 

 
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David
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Alan
Forum Moderator

Western Australia


353 Posts

Posted - 21 Nov 2005 :  12:30:16 AM  Show Profile Send Alan a Private Message  

 
David, I am not sure what is going on these days but you seem to be fairly aggresive with your replies to a lot of postings that dont on the surface seem to justify it. If you want this site to achieve your original aims this sort of response should be kept private between you and the other party as this is the sort of thing that is keeping people away or stopping them from posting. Maybe you are resigned to this site fading away into oblivion, if so maybe you should just close it down rather than have more damage done to the sport.
Not out to offend you but I have always been a believer in this site or something similar and would hate it to disappear completely.

Alan Sidecar21 WA
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 21 Nov 2005 :  05:41:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
Your right Alan, I have been a bit aggressive in my replies, but it seems the only way that some people will get it in to their thick heads.

Alan, I used to have a don't care attitude and this site will make the sport better and increase it with opening a new doorway for people who would not of thought of joining the sport, then I noticed the real bull behind the scenes and the knockers of the site.

Some users really tried to destroy the sport and this site, and using this site as a point to send out their plan to destroy the sport. The PCRA of NSW could not stick to a deal they made years ago in 2001 and then tried to rubbish me in their attempt to take something from me that I clearly owned.

A certian bloke from NT really pissed me off with-out knowing the true facts on things that was happening on this site, then a Secretary from a motorcycle club here in Victoria used this site to send Private Messages to most of the users here to join his New site and rubbish this site at that site. A complete stab in the back, after all the help I had given him.

There is a lot more than that, but they are some of the things that have made me aggressive and turned me against helping the sport. So basically I have lost all respect for the sport and can see there will not be an outlet like the one I had built over the years because of the narrow minded people that are still involved in trying to destroy the sport.

There is now a Poll at You must be logged in to see this link. Vote on the choices...
 

 
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

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Former Member
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72 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  10:54:06 PM  

 
i couldn't have explained my reason for not posting any better that this blab david..

"Basically if the site don't sell in the specified time I stated a while ago, then this is going to be the biggest anti Historic, Classic and Post Classic Australian motorcycle site there is."

when you finally decide the direction of this site then maybe some people will post their comments here.. why would anyone want to be involved in the biggest anti-historic site the world has ever seen?? and why would anyone bother reading it anyway??? good luck on your decision .. if you really want to ban me then i hope it makes your day. you may need to change your current home page message though....

"Classic Motorcycling Australia
Is a web site dedicated to Classic, Post Classic and Historic motorcycle racing across Australia:"


by the way congratulations to the various winners at the Historic Championships, although not reported here the results are avalible on some other sites.
 

 
There are those who do, those who used to do and those who never did..
why is this 3rd group always trying to convince everyone they know best?
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David
Site Administrator

Australia


999 Posts

Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  05:17:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit David's Homepage Send David a Private Message  

 
You see HHH, your attitude is part of the reason I don't care anymore. You see you had a choice well before the comments I made about selling this site, and you choose to not post here well before then, so you can not go saying that is why you are not posting you hypocrite.

See there is still the culture of the old boys club in the sport. A bunch of old arseholes that don't like change or they don't know to use the internet to help the sport. I see you fit in to this group.

And when it comes time to change anything on the site, I will change it, not when you say to change it. So if you don't like the site as it currently is, then go else where.
 

 
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia

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acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


2147 Posts

Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  08:05:42 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
Daid, I'm sorry you are at odds with the PCRA of NSW. I've been on their forum quite a bit, and some of their initiatives like 'New Era 1&2' show a lot of good thinking. Some one said to a Winton official the other day that Pihllip Island would 'take business away'. It's simply not true. The fact is that the more racing ANYWHERE, the better for Winton. And the same is true of this website. I wouldn't be perturbed that HMRAV or whoever has a competing website. When you go to their site or the PCRA/NSW site, you get one side of the coin,and the views of a certain group.
You site still provides an important service to historic motorcycling. As I've said before, I've only got optimism for the future of historic racing in Victoria. I believe it will eventually be bigger than Ben Hur!
 

 
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acotrel
Advanced Member

Victoria


2147 Posts

Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  08:17:26 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
David, Your comment about a 'bunch of old areseholes who don't want to see change' strikes a chord with me. The one thing that has come across very strongly over the years on this site, has been the conservatism of some people. I've always promoted a search for different formats for historic racing. I believed the guys are too locked into racing in 'periods'. There are other ways of running (at least parts of)meetings, which would cater for everyone, and provide a bit more interest.
Best Regards,
Alan Cotterell
 

 
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Patrick
Level 3 Member

Victoria


314 Posts

Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  2:14:14 PM  Show Profile Send Patrick a Private Message  

 
quote:
Originally posted by acotrel

....... I've always promoted a search for different formats for historic racing. I believed the guys are too locked into racing in 'periods'. There are other ways of running (at least parts of)meetings, which would cater for everyone, and provide a bit more interest.
Best Regards,
Alan Cotterell


This is interesting Alan, I will open a new thread on The Harvie Wiltshire Trophy which supports your thinking.
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