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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
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 Posted - 13 Aug 2010 : 10:28:21 AM
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Thus far the financial offer still stands but nobody has offered to race with a bike configured for this group.
Do we pull the pin and send the money to the sidecars?
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2010 : 7:59:31 PM
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Thus far the financial offer still stands but nobody has offered to race with a bike configured for this group.
Derr! Are the rules too restrictive? |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2010 : 8:01:50 PM
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| I would have thought 90% of period 5 and period 6 would be eligible? Ask Jason if he wants a ride! |
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JasonL
Level 3 Member
Victoria
240 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2010 : 03:03:43 AM
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| You may need to fill me in a little bit first? |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2010 : 09:33:04 AM
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If you look at the rules, they must have a specific look from the period. Most bikes today do not look as if they came from 1975, they have angled pipes, re sets lower handle basr etc.
Historic Superbikes started in the 70's with kwaka 9's, cb750 Hondas etc. the 1980 style of machine are way off the mark.
Peter Guest and Robboe Phillys would be close.
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
Edited by - john on 14 Aug 2010 10:25:46 AM |
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john feakes
Advanced Member
Victoria
791 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2010 : 10:38:41 AM
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I think the main problem here is that all it would amount to would be the existing bikes being altered to create a "new" look.
This is not going to happen.
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125 RIDERS' ALLIANCE
A wise person simplifies the complicated, a fool complicates the simple. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2010 : 11:37:58 AM
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The thing about the Historic Superbike proposal is to ignore current machines.
It is based around new machines that newcomers may wish to build and meet the terms and conditions.
The current bikes are so far past reality of the period, thats why Historic Superbikes was drawn up.
Any machines look much different from the current batch and they include machines that generally are not ridden today because they are surpassed in technology.
HS would include Truimph triples, stock capacity Honda 750's Stock Kwaka 9's, 750 Waterbottles etc. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2010 : 09:40:36 AM
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| You might do better promoting macines from period 5 and period 6 which are over 500cc in capacity, in one class where the big stuff can really race. I know Wally Campbell has the 1983(?) VF 750 Honda he used in the 6 hour and wants to ride. Why would you exclude him amd others like him from riding against Robbie Phillis and Wayne Gardner on bikes which are already quite fast enough to beat him? The easiest thing to do might be to extend the period 5 cutoff date to 1985, and get choosy about what 80s bikes you allow to compete? The Historic Superbikes concept is PROMOTABLE, and I'm sure it'll pull spectators, if you get the top guys competing. It could end up as something like a revived Swann Series. |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2010 : 09:44:51 AM
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| John Daley - credit where it's due - at least you're thinking about ways to improve our sport! I believe a few specialty races would greatly improve historic meetings. |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2010 : 09:53:35 AM
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| I believe Kevin Magee recently had access to an 80s machine, and is also interested in having a ride. If we can do this historic superbikes stuff, Phillip Island whith the international riders would be great in a couple of years time! |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2010 : 10:22:19 AM
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| How about limitting the class to aircooled engined bikes over 500cc, and a 1990 cutoff date? |
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john feakes
Advanced Member
Victoria
791 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2010 : 1:28:09 PM
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This thinking could get something up and running.
There must be bikes out there just breeding red backs simply because they have nowhere to race. |
125 RIDERS' ALLIANCE
A wise person simplifies the complicated, a fool complicates the simple. |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 08:06:19 AM
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| I don't believe most of the bikes in the video are 'past reality' They resemble what was raced around 1980. |
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Doghouse Dave
Level 2 Member
Victoria
34 Posts |
Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 2:21:29 PM
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| Anyone know where the rules are? I cant find them. |
It doesnt matter if you win or lose,its having a good time that counts. |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 09:02:31 AM
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| There was a web site especially set up for this class. I've lost the address, but John Daley knows it. The rules were put up on that site, and they didn't seem too bad. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 11:02:25 AM
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www.historicsuperbikes.info
But its down at the moment I will need to sort that out. I do have a et on my computer here.
Email me and I can send them.
I will try and get a set to David Greening also
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2010 : 05:13:04 AM
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The site (www.historicsuperbikes.info) had none to very little traffic for about 6 months and there was no posts in the forum since March 2009 (apart from me in December 2009 asking if anyone uses the site) so I had taken it offline in March 2010 as there was no need to keep something there that was not being used, but can quite easy put it back up when I get my full Internet backup and running (silly ISP's) next week and you say the word..
Or we can use the forum here to get a wider audience, your choice John.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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Alan Cotterell
In a time out state
Victoria
421 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2010 : 07:23:24 AM
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| I suggest everything depends on what we WANT to happen? We really need to decide whether Robbie Phillis and Wayne Gardner are good for our sport, and do the punters really want to see them perform on the bikes they rode back in the late 70s/early 80s? The huge crowd which gets to the January meeting at Phillip Island must mean something? |
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oldonk
Level 2 Member
Australian Capital Territory
84 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2010 : 10:53:48 AM
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I would like to se the site open.
Maybe as John mentioned once maybe his idea was too far ahead of the masses. |
Edited by - oldonk on 18 Aug 2010 10:59:37 AM |
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mike.johnson
Level 1 Member
New South Wales
3 Posts |
Posted - 19 Nov 2010 : 3:21:30 PM
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| Anyone knows rules for this? If yes please share here. Eager to know. It will be kind help. |
Mike Johnson |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 19 Nov 2010 : 4:19:24 PM
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You must be logged in to see this link.
has all the details.
GO FOT IT PLEASE!!!
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
Edited by - john on 19 Nov 2010 4:20:32 PM |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 19 Nov 2010 : 9:14:36 PM
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| I see a logo for the HSB venture. It's a deceased equestrian, and beside it, a man flogging it mercilessly... |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2010 : 08:26:18 AM
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| That maybe the case GD66, but there are people who live with hope. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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