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David
Site Administrator
Australia
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 Posted - 04 May 2005 : 6:17:59 PM
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Motorcycling Australia has a vacancy on each of the following sporting Commissions:-
Motocross/Supercross
Dirt Track
Historic Road Racing
Applicants should be able to demonstrate the following:-
- knowledge of the particular discipline
- enthusiasm and drive to bring about positive change within the sport
- the ability to consider issues from a national perspective
- a proven record of contributing towards a successful activity or organisation
The appointments will be for a period to be determined by the MA Board. Further details regarding the positions description can be obtained by contacting the MA office Tel - 03 9684 0500.
Applications will close on the 31 May 2005 with:
Ross Martin
Commissions & Committees Manager.
P.O. Box 134
South Melbourne VIC 3205
Fax: 03 9684 0555
email: rmartin [at] ma.org.au
A11.10
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 1:21:01 PM
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Alan Kidd has just advised me that he too has resigned as a commissioner because of lack of direction from MA to the future of the sport.
So we now need three extra commissioners now, Keith Roberts is now the chair and sole commissioner from Historics.
Can somebody volunteer? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 7:36:26 PM
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I already have and there were several applicants that were already rejected so I guess MA needs some new blood.
The biggest issue for us is that the recent meeting of the Commission is meaningless as they met with only two Commissioners and now when they consider the submissions from all and sundry later in the year there will be no continuity. Maybe Alan Kidd should reconsider his position.
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 10:56:22 PM
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I dont agree, the real issue is lack of enthusiasm by riders to help with admin. Alan has his projects to finish. It is a great opportunity for somebody else to step up, 3 of them and offer to help.
I am sure MA will be overwhelmed with offers from riders who are willing to make sacrifices for the good of the rest. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Former Member
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Posted - 12 May 2005 : 1:35:24 PM
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I won't be bothering to comment too much on anything Ross might have to say, though I was in regular contact with the General Manager of MA, Brian Payne, on a regular basis regarding commission business that included the lack of information being supplied to commissioners. If Ross isnt aware of that he should sook elsewhere, not here. Anyway to paraphrase Ross, I hope the new commissioners will find "competent, committed people that want to advance this discipline" working at MA.
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2005 : 7:58:38 PM
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| Lets not get in to why people have left, but in to who would like to take on the role at MA. |
Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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2stroke
Level 1 Member
South Australia
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Posted - 12 May 2005 : 11:50:19 PM
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From I can see, try the The Dialama, Koffa Annan and Nelson Mandela but even they may need help from Rocky, Superman and Batman just to get a hearing.
From my observations it would seem as if reasoned discussion is just met with a blind resistance to anything sugestted by outsiders.
I see even Ron Keppovich slated the riders at the National Historic Titles in the May 2005 issue of Cycletorque [ page 46]but sidesteps all the hassles caused by blind obstruction, ignorance and abuse.
I would have hoped that Alan Kidd may have got a thankyou rather than a broadside from Ross Martin.
I dont know what the agenda is but when people are abused, logbook applications get delayed, commissioners resign and inexperienced people are made chairman of the commisioner, whislt we have written threats to pull back logbooks already issued[ Keith Campbell} minutes of meetings doctored [ reported here about 12 months ago] and the 2005 National titles seem setup for a fallover because of short notice you cant help wondering what is going on.
And while I am at it have trophies yet been provided by the promotor for the Winton meeting yet? |
The Philosopher, the Antagonist take your pick.
He who dares to speak! |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2005 : 11:41:41 PM
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The guy from WA has received his medallion finally but only after MA had to buy some more because Winton wouldnt or couldnt fulfil their obligations. This from an association that gets bagged at every twist and turn.
The other issue being the Commission, a lot of individuals bag the Commissioners as well so heres your chance to take up the challenge and apply. For those that dont know whats involved you can always have a chat to Ross Martin who will, regardless of what you think of him, take the time out to talk about the responsibilities and duties and expectations of the role.
anyaway thats my say.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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Allan
Site Moderator
National
599 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2005 : 06:53:51 AM
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Well I rang MA to inquire about this Position and the switch Lady put me on to Ross Martin ..
I asked what was involed in the position and was told to look up the CCR's chap 34?? and some other chapter..
If they (MA) carn't have a set of guide line on what is required for the job,why worrie..
I was told that there is one meeting a year and the rest is done by phone calls..
Surly a a job like this should have a set of guide line's not a simple text as in the CCR's, and one meeting per year!!.. In the real world no business would last very long with this attitude!! LET's get real and do thing's in a proper manner and run HISTORIC's as a Business.. |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2005 : 11:06:23 PM
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Seems like my advice was a waste of time then. I will try and condense what I see/saw as the role of a Commissioner.
Apart from what is written in the GCRs the Commissions do meet once a year in person usually around the beginning of May. The purpose of this meeting is to review and assess submissions put forward by all and sundry to the Commission and to make recommendations which are minuted and sent out to RCBs then hopefully forwarded to clubs and committees who then respond to these recommendations. The Commission then meets by conference call to discuss the responses and make a final decision which then goes through a process that is listed in the GCRs before being incuded in the following years GCRs assuming the board is in agreement.
At the initial meeting they usually assess applications to host the following years National Titles and recommend to the board their preferred option.
The Commission is also supposed to make recommendations to the Board in other areas such as policy, promotion of the sport etc
Obviously a well organised and dedicated Commission would do far more than I described but I did try to make this a very abbreviated description of the role without boring people or frightening off potential candidates.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 07:51:40 AM
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| To what extend does the requirement to sign a document of confidentaility restrict you in the ability to discuss issues with riders? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 7:41:43 PM
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I HEAR THE FOLLOWING HAVE BEEN added to the existing Commissioner, Keith Roberts;
David Andersen
John Simms.
Peter Shires. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
Edited by - john on 22 Jun 2005 12:13:03 PM |
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Patrick
Level 3 Member
Victoria
314 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 8:48:03 PM
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| Note that this is not on MA News @ 8.30pm so John has a scoop. |
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yamaman
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
44 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2005 : 8:52:47 PM
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| is this a good thing? Will these players quash the proposed changes, or do they require some lobbying? |
Beer makes you feel like you should feel when your not drinking beer |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 12:57:11 PM
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| Alan, we had better do our homework. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Former Member
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120 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 3:24:09 PM
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| well i guess someone has to ask the question, who are these guys.? do they have a good background, are they stooges ross martin & co have dug up, do they support the philosophy of doom that no other guys do. how come there are 3 names when there were only 2 vacants, has keith roberts been booted off. |
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Former Member
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Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 4:10:22 PM
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| Some interesting questions Jayne which deserve answers. I assume the appointments are official, its dissapointing that MA has again not made an announcement. Can I suggest you come along to forum that David White is convening and give your input and take the oportunity meet all concerned for yourself. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 5:00:46 PM
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Listen up fellas there is no conspiracy.
I was sent an email from Keith Roberts detailing the new appointments, there was no comment to hold publication, so I thought it was already public knowledge.
I published the info as that is my role as a Secretary. Now I understand that whilst the MA Board had made the reccommendations in fact the people had not confirmed their acceptance. So there is now trouble in the camp.
MA in fact were preparing a press release for tommorrow.
Not withstanding anything, apart from me jumping the gun accidently, I guess the routine is much the same as usual.
Lets wait and see the MA release for the full details.
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 9:21:44 PM
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Well one thing that is oficial is that i got my thanks but no thanks letter yesterday.
Peter Shires will be good on the Commission, while not a rider he has vast knowledge of motorcycles particularly of the racing kind and prepares the bikes that Gordon McDonald rides. I have not heard of John Sims but David Anderson rings a bell.
We all need to let these guys get a feel for what is happening before canning them. Give them a chance and as Alan Kidd said get your selves along to the forum and find out first hand what is on the agenda.
Why not get together somewhere on Friday Night and have a beer together and solve the problems of the world without a forum.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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Former Member
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120 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 10:32:35 PM
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| nah they all must be okay with the new jobs coz if u look on the ma web site under 'contacts' you'll see all these names filled in as new commish people. so if there is more trouble in the camp its looks like ross martin has done it again. |
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matcho mick
Advanced Member
New South Wales
570 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2005 : 10:40:13 PM
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hope it's the John Simms from my state,should be good for the sport,races smelly 2 strokes,but is ressurrecting his old manx,so all is not lost??,is that Peter Shires from Darwin Alan?,(is into weird stuff,sorry Peter,but triple smelly 2 strokes is weird stuff,TA fahron w/c barrells apart!!), |
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yamaman
Level 2 Member
Western Australia
44 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2005 : 03:40:00 AM
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| Good stuff, and welcome to the new commishioners! |
Beer makes you feel like you should feel when your not drinking beer |
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Former Member
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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 : 06:50:30 AM
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| Peter's definitely not a stooge so I feel confident the commission is in good hands. It's up to us now to support and lobby them and make this system work. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2005 : 6:29:45 PM
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As supplied today:quote:
For immediate release
June 23, 2005
Hello all,
The Board of Motorcycling Australia (MA) is delighted to announce the following new appointments to the Historic Road Race Commission: David Andersen, John Simms and Peter Shires.
The trio will join incumbent Keith Roberts on the expanded commission, which has been increased by one extra member in recognition of the resources required to further develop historic road racing.
The three new appointments have all enjoyed a prosperous association with motorcycle racing, including long periods as competitors.
Shires is the first person from the Northern Territory to sit on an MA sporting commission, and his involvement in competition has been across all levels – as a rider, entrant, sponsor, official, promoter and committee member.
Andersen, who lives in Melbourne, was an A-grade road racer in 1985 before calling it a day. He returned to the fray in 1993 on a Suzuki T500, and went on to win many national and state-level races. He still competes today on ‘modern’ Yamaha GP machines. Andersen has also owned and operated a motorcycle shop, and was a past secretary of the Post Classic Association of Victoria.
Finally, Simms has also been an active member of the two-wheel fraternity, and raced internationally in the mid 1960s. The historic racing bug then bit in 1983, and he still races nowadays on Period 4 and 5 machines. Simms has been an office bearer and delegate to a number of motorcycle organisations, and he was President of the Post Classic Racing Association of NSW for 14 years.
In announcing the appointments, the CEO of MA, David White, said: “The task of selecting the three was a difficult one for the Board, because of the sheer number of quality applicants.
“The Board is confident that the broad spectrum of talent across the new appointments will greatly assist in developing historic road racing in Australia.”
-ENDS-
For more information, contact:
Mark Fattore
Media Manager
Motorcycling Australia
147 Montague Street (PO Box 134)
South Melbourne, Vic 3205
Tel: +61 (0)3 9684 0503
Mobile: +61 (0)400 055 077
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
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