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Former Member
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 Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 06:57:29 AM
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Second post back and already calling people "stooges" and "idiots". To gain a snoozer and lose a sidecar 21 is a poor exchange. So much for this site.
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David
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Australia
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Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 08:57:59 AM
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Gary in reference to this comment:
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I am not going to defend Jayne in this reply, but if you do not like the comments someone is making, then send me a private message and I will decide if it is appropriate or not. And from what Snoozer has said in the past and the comments and feedback I have had from MA, then I have to agree with her comments on this topic.
I have asked MA nicely for comments and you know what the response I get from them is, NOTHING. Not even "we are looking in to it".
The only time we get a response from MA, is when things are either way from the truth and they threaten legal action and tell me to come in to their office to talk about it, and they promise me the world then on information to provide to people like you and what do they give me? "NOTHING" I have been to meetings with David White now over 3 times in the time I have been running this site and nothing has changed for the sport of Classic, Post Classic and Historic motorcycle racing in Australia apart from the stupidity I have seen come out of that office.
From what I have seen, Jayne is the only one with balls enough to say what is going on. So if Alan and you are upset with it, I might as well pull the pin on the site as there is some new blood there trying to help with your sport, and there are comments like this posted:quote:
Originally posted by gary
So much for this site.
Alan, you or anyone else doesn't have to listen (read) to what Jayne has to say, but like she has said in the past about what MA is doing, or not doing, most of it is right and it just may affect all of you.
Also as you can see by Al Kidds original message:quote:
Originally posted by Al
Rather odd that MA havn't posted this info considering they previously undertook to be more open and support forums like this one.
MA are only doing themselves more harm than what Jayne is doing. They can not even do their own simples minutes right, so how are they going to run a multi million dollar business?
I know Alan is trying to get back in to be the Commish, but has been told no, and when Allan G called them, they did not know what they where looking for and could not give him a proper understanding of what the role entailed, by simply saying look at the GCR's, attend 1 race meeting and then it is phone calls.
To me it looks like they want to push the new rules through then get people to fill the gaps they have, as the know that the sport will be dead real soon after the rules are through. Are you going to be able to race your sidecar when the new rules come in Gary? I have a feeling that you will not be able to until you can prove it was around in it's current form, which is near impossible to prove it was. I know that serial numbers have not been kept of the bikes that ran back in the period and that makes it impossible to prove it was around then, then you have to have the bike the same as it was, fairings, colors and parts. Who has it the same as when they got it, no one.
Now is the time that everyone should be working together to make sure that MA don't kill your sport, because I can only do so much from here.
While I am rambling on here, I know people have created other sites as they do not like the way I allow some comments to progress, but that is why this site was setup, to allow people to say what they feel about the sport.
I do not allow personal comments, and that is why there is one former user banned until I deem it fine to let him back. And if others do not like the comments directed to an organisation, such as MA, please submit a comment by Private Message to me.
I will even make it easy over the next few weeks (maybe days) to report things that you do not like and I will keep all complaints to the strictest privacy and if the reason is valid, I will act upon it, but if I do not find a valid cause, I will reply with why I do not see it as vaild. This site believes in helping the sport.
I hope I made myself clear.
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 09:50:55 AM
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Well done Davo.
I am aware some people use sites to dump abuse but I have seen sites well manged that prevent that happenning and the feel of the site is condusive to discussion. It is a pity Alan W feels he cant be present with Snoozer, I have found sulking in the corner a lonely action.
I hope open, polite and constructive discussion rises from this. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
Edited by - john on 04 Jun 2005 1:27:25 PM |
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Allan
Site Moderator
National
599 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 09:59:48 AM
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| Well I must be thick skinned or just a D-head.. I can not see where Jane has used any words that would offend me.. If this is all it takes, "GOD" help CLASSIC motorcycle Racing !! AS to the NEW ? RULES they have been on the books for a couple (5) years, maybe, in a different wording ..Don't riders keep up with what has happened in past ? WE all have been prior warning of these RULES and other's to come.. Yes I believe MA are SLACK in letting the Riders know what is hapening "BUT" it is always some where on MA's web site or in the gcr's !! some times i think MA go to great troubles to make it impossible to find these changes..AS to MA promise to Classicmotorcycling .com.au IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.. Yes I have been to two of the Meetings with MA, not worth the time involed to meet with them, as nothing that was promised has happened ..ONCE AGAIN we need MA to be run by Business type people not just do gooders.. |
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Edited by - Allan on 04 Jun 2005 10:05:05 AM |
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Former Member
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120 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 1:19:48 PM
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| i've always been taught that if the cap fits wear it, well garry if you can relate to being a stooge or an idiot then deal with it, alan from wa seems to want to rule the roost but no one really wants him. its not about egos or twisting things around, its about will you be able to race your bike this time next year, or if you dont race at least be able to see other guys putting on a good show. ma is made up of control freaks who want to change things but cant tell you what the benifits are, i dont think they care about the benifits as long as they keep there control. alan from wa would be better off putting his efforts into the future of the sport, and not his future on the commish, anyway ross martin has already given the possy he wanted to a guy who looks a bit swampy, (coz i'll get in trouble if i say his name so i'm told). all everyone has to do here is fire back at ma about there garbage rule changes that no one except ross martin & co want. if you support ross martin & co then come on here and say so rather than attack me, most people can understand that an attack on me is a vote for ma but have the balls to say what you think. i personally believe there should be staff changes at ma and i'm perfectly in my right having my opinion. if that makes stooges and idiots uncomfortable then so be it, the fact that ross martin & co have released the philosophy of doom now that they have control of the commish shows how much impact the stooges and idiots have anyway, none. and all the people that have stuck it up ma have stopped there crap from happening, we have to keep at them and not keep quiet for the benifit of the stooges and idiots. |
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Former Member
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48 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 1:45:42 PM
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I couldn't agree more about MA's attitude to our sport but I don't think calling individuals names is the way to get changes. And I do take offence at people being labled "stooges", "idiots" and "church mices" when making comments and trying to work within or improving the system.
I also don't think Alan W, if he choses not to be here, will spend any time sulking. He will be far too busy being involved with our sport.
Yes, lets hope open, polite and constructive discussion continues.
PS It didn't take much to get you going again Snoozer, did it.
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Former Member
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120 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 5:05:14 PM
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well i just read your edit garry,
"PS It didn't take much to get you going again Snoozer, did it."
ross martin & co's philosophy of doom isn't much is it. garry i think i might get a free licence for saying to you thar you are definately an idiot and a stooge if you don't think there philosophy is much to get worked up about. remember that the church mices that think being polite and sucking up have got no where except to be labelled church mices an stooges coz good people fought the philosophy down an those same people will continue to for the sake of the sport. dont worry about alan from wa sulking, he'll keep posting on the site just under one of his other names, worry about keeping your own reputation in good nick. no one wants ross martins philosophy, thats where you should be putting your efforts. |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
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Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 9:48:49 PM
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Just to put the record straight, I do not sulk full stop, I do not have any other aliases or nicknames and do not hide who I am or what I stand for all I ask is for people to be constructive, tell what they know and not what they think they know, and not be over critical of others,. Who is to say who is right until we have the benefit of hindsight, we all think we know best but until time passes and the results of decsions are known we are never sure.
I repeat I do not support this philosophy that is being forced upon us and I honestly do believe it will only harm historic racing.
If I do make any postings in future they will have my regular signature so you will know who I am, I unlike others do not hide my identity, maybe thats because I have a clear conscience.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 11:22:43 AM
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As promised, I have now added a Report to Moderator button next to the post. You will see this image:
and if you have an issue with a post, click on the image next to the post and it gives you the option to make a complaint about that topic or the reply to the topic.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2005 : 8:26:12 PM
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| Further to this, I have updated the Report to Moderator link to have the need to be logged in to report the issue that you feel is an issue. I have just had 60 listed from a robot trolling the pages so thought that I would stop it, and only allow members to put in the complaints. |
Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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